θε σουλ συσσεντ and sussed again
In the beginning
A blind man
A tree ανέο A pple
ωνε σουλ Σουλ Σούερ
ωνε
That is certain
And now look again, and see what will naturally follow
it^
the prisoners are released and disabused of their
error.
At first, when any of them is liberated and
compelled suddenly
to stand up and turn his neck round and
walk and look
towards the light
he will suffer sharp pains;
the glare will distress him
and he will be unable
to see
the realities
of which in his former state he had seen
the shadows; and then conceive
Some
one
saying
to him
that what he saw before was an illusioν
but that noω
when he is approaching near((er)) to being
and his
eye is
turned towards more real existαncε
Σ he has a clearer vision,
— what will be his reply?
And you may
further imagine
that his instructor is pointing
to the objects as they pass
and
requiring him to name them,
—
Γουίλλ
he not be perplexed?
Βίλ
he not
fancy that the shadows which he formerly
saw are truer than the objects
which are
Now
shown to him?
Τώο
Far trueρ
And if he is compelled to look straight at the light, will he not have a pain in his eyes which will make him
turn away
to take and take
in the objects of vision
which he can see, and which he will conceive to be in
reality clearer than the things which are now being shown to him?
True
he said
Θεραπεία Φουρ
Any one who has common sense will remember
that the
Be
wilder
meant
ζ
of the eyes are of two kinds
and arise
from two causes
either from
coming out of the light
or from
going into the light
which is true of
the mind's
eye
quite
as much as of
the bodily eye;
and he who remembers this
when he sees any
one
whose vision is
perplexed and weak
will not be too ready to laugh;
he will first ask whether that Σούερ of man has come out of
the brighter light
and is unable to see
because unaccustomed to the dark
or having turned from darkness to
the day
is dazzled by excess of light
And he will count the one happy in his condition and state of being
and
he will pity the other;
or, if he have a
mind to laugh
at the Σούερ
which comes from below
into the light
there
will be more reason
in this than in the laugh
which greets him who returns
from above out of the light into the den
That
he saiζ
is a very
just distinction
Φιβε
ΑΝΤΣ
then
if
I
am right
certain
professors of education
must be wrong
when they say that they can put
a
Knowledge
into
the Σούερ
which was
not there before
like
sight into blind eyes
They
undoubtedly say
this
he replied
Σεβέν Ειγητ Νινε Των
Very true
And must there not be some art which
will effect conversion
in the easiest and quickest manner;
not
implanting the faculty of sight
for that exists already
but has been turned in the wrong direction
and is
looking away from the truth?
Yes
he said
such an art
may be presumed
And whereas the other so-called
virtues of the Σούερ
seem to be akin to bodily qualities
for even when they are
not originally innate they can be implanted later by habit and exercise
the of wisdom
more than anything else
contains a divine element which always remains
and by this conversion is rendered useful and profitable;
or
on the other hand
hurtful and useless
Did you never observe
the narrow intelligence
flashing from the keen
eye of a clever rogue —
how eager he is, how clearly his paltry
Σούερ
sees the way to his end; he
is the reverse
of blind
But
his keen eyesight is forced into the service of evil
and he is
mischievous
Μισχεβιους
μισχεβιούς
in proportion to his
cleverness
Very true
he said
Ελεβέν
Very true
he said
But what if there
had been
a circumcision
of
such natures
in the days of their youth;
and they had been
severed from those sensual pleasures
such as eating and drinking
which
like leaden weights
were attached
to them at their birth
and which drag them down
and
turn the vision of
their Σούερs
upon the things that are
below —
if
I
say
they had been released from these impediments and turned in the opposite direction
the
very same faculty in them
would have
seen the truth
as keenly as
they see what
their eyes are turned
to now
Very likely
Τουελβε Θηρτεέν
By all means
he replied
The process, I said,
is not the turning over of an oyster-shell
but
the turning
round
of
a
Σούερ
passing from
a
Day
which is little better than night
to the true day of being
that is
the ascent from below
which we affirm to
be true philosophy?
Quite so
And should we not
enquire
what sort of knowledge
has the power
of
effecting such a change?
Certainly
What sort of knowledge is there which would draw the Σούερ from becoming to being?
And
another
consideration has
just
occurred to me:
You will remember
that our young men are to be warrior athletes?
Yes
that was said
Then this new kind of knowledge
must have an additional quality?
What quality?
Use full ness
in war
Yes
if possible
Φουρτεέν
I should like to know whether you have the same notion which I have of this study?
What is your notion?
It appears to me to be a study of the kind which we are seeking, and which leads naturally to reflection, but
never to have been rightly used; for the true use of it is simply to draw the Σούερ towards
βεingng
Will you explain your meaning?
he said
I will try
I said;
and I
wish you
would share the
enquiry with me
and say "yes" or "no" when
I
attempt to
distinguish
in my own mind
what branches of knowledge
have this attracting power in order that we may
have clearer proof
that
Arithmetic
is
as
I
suspect
one of them
Explain
he said
I
mean
to say
that objects of sense
are of two kinds;
some of them do
not invite thought
because the sense is
an adequate judge of them;
while in the case of other objects sense is so untrustworthy that further
enquiry is
imperatively demanded
You are clearly referring
he said
to the manner in which the senses are imposed upon by distance, and by
painting in light and shade
No
I said
that is
not at all
my meaning
Then what is your meaning?
Φιφτεέν Σιχτεέν Σεβέντρίν Ειγητεέν
True
And therefore, I said, as we might expect
there is nothing here
which invites
or excites
intelligence
There is not
he said
But is this equally true of the greatness and smallness of the fingers? Can sight adequately perceive them? and
is no difference made by the circumstance that one of the fingers is in the middle and another at the
extremity? And in like manner does the touch adequately perceive the qualities of thickness or thinness, or
softness or hardness? And so of the other senses; do they give perfect intimations of such matters? Is not their
mode of operation on this wise — the sense which is concerned with the quality of hardness is necessarily
concerned also with the quality of softness, and only intimates to the Σούερ that the same thing is felt to be both
hard and soft?
You are
quite right
he said
And must not the Σούερ be perplexed at this intimation which the sense gives of a hard which is also soft?
What, again, is the meaning of light and heavy, if that which is light is also heavy, and that which is heavy,
light?
Yes
he said
these intimations which
the Σούερ
receives
are very curious
and
require to be explained
Yes
I said
and
in these perplexities
the Σούερ
naturally summons
to her aid
calculation and intelligence
that
she may see
whether the several objects
announced to her
are one
or two
True
Νιντεέν Τουέντυ
I
understand
he said
and
agree with you
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And to which
class do
unity and number
belong?
I
do not
know
he replied
Think a little and you will see that what has preceded will supply the answer; for if simple unity could be
adequately perceived by the sight or by any other sense, then, as we were saying in the case of the finger,
there would be nothing to attract towards being; but when there is some contradiction always present, and one
is the reverse of one and involves the conception of plurality,
then thought
begins to be aroused within us,
and
the Σούερ
perplexed and wanting
to arrive at a decision asks
"What is absolute unity?"
This is the way in which
the study of the one has a power of drawing and converting the mind to the contemplation of true
Being
And surely, he said, this occurs notably in the case of one; for we see the same thing to be both one and
infinite in multitude?
Yes, I said; and this being true of one must be equally true of all number?
Certainly
Νιντεέν Τουέντυ
That
is true
And our guardian is both warrior and philosopher?
Certainly
Then this is a kind of knowledge which legislation may fitly prescribe; and
We
must endeavour to persuade
those who are prescribe
to be
the principal men of our State to go and learn arithmetic, not as amateurs, but
they must carry on the study until they see the nature of numbers with the mind only; nor again, like
merchants or retail-traders, with a view to buying or selling, but for the sake of their military use, and of the
Σούερ herself;
and because this will be the easiest way for her to pass from
Become ing
to
truth and Be ing
That
is excellent
he said
Yes, I said, and now having spoken of it,
I must add how
Charming
the science is!
And
in how many ways it
conduces to our desired end
if pursued in the spirit of a philosopher
and not of a shopkeeper!
How
do you mean?
I mean,
as I was saying
that arithmetic has a very
great and elevating effect
compelling
the Σούερ
to reason
about abstract number
and rebelling against the introduction
of visible or tangible
objects
into the argument
You know how steadily
the masters of the art
repel and ridicule
any one
who attempts
to divide
absolute unity
when he
is calculating
and
if you divide Του
they multiply Θεϊ
taking care that
one
shall
continue one
and not
become lost
in fractions
That
is very true
Τουεντυ ΟΝΕ
You
mean geometry?
Exactly so
Clearly he said
we are
concerned with
that part
of geometry
which relates
to war;
for in
pitching a camp
or
taking up a position
or closing or extending the lines
of an army or any other
military
manoeuvre whether
in
actual battle or on a march
it will make all the difference
whether a
general
is or is not a
geometrician
Yes, I said, but for that purpose a very little of either geometry or calculation will be enough;
the question
relates rather to
the greater and more
advanced part of geometry —
whether that tends in any degree to
make
more easy the vision of the idea of good;
and thither
as I was saying
all things tend which compel
the Σούερ to
turn her gaze towards that place
where is the full perfection of being
which she ought
by all means
to
Behold
True
he said
Then if geometry compels us to view being
it concerns us;
if becoming only
it does not concern us?
Yes
that
is what
we assert
Τουεντυ Τουό
Certainly
he said
Then
must not a
further admission
be made?
What admission?
That
the knowledge
at which
geometry
aims is
knowledge of
the eternal
And
not of aught
perishing
and
Transient
That
he replied
may be readily allowed
and
is true
Then, my noble friend, geometry will
draw the Σούερ
towards truth
and create the spirit
of philosophy
And
raise up that
which is now
unhappily allowed
to fall down
Nothing
will be more likely
to have such an effect
Then nothing should be more sternly laid down than that the inhabitants of your fair city should by all means
learn geometry
Moreover the science has
indirect effects which
Are
not small
Of what kind? he said
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Let
us
do so
he replied
And suppose we make astronomy the third —
what do you say?
I am strongly inclined to it
he said;
the observation of
the seasons and of months and years
is as
Essential
to
the general
as it is to
the farmer or sailor
I am amused
I said
at your fear of the world
which makes you guard
against the appearance of insisting
upon useless studies;
and I quite admit the difficulty
of believing that in every man there is
An
eye
of the Σούερ
which
when
by other pursuits
lost and dimmed
is
by these purified and re-illumined;
And
is
more precious
far than ten thousand
bodily eyes
for by
it
Alone
is truth seen
Now
there are two classes of persons:
one class
of those who will agree with you and will take your words as a revelation;
another class to whom they will be
utterly unmeaning
and who will naturally deem them to be idle ta
for they see no sort of profit which is to
be obtained from them
And
therefore you had better decide
at once
with which of the two
you are proposing
to argue
You will
very likely
say with neither
and that your chief
aim in carrying on
the argument is your
own improvement;
at the
same time
you do
not grudge
to others
any benefit which
they may receive
I think that I
should prefer to
carry on the
argument mainly on
my own behalf
Then take a step backward
for we have gone wrong in the order of the sciences
What was the mistake?
he said
Τουεντυ Φουρ
First you began with a geometry of plane surfaces?
Yes
I said
And you placed astronomy next
and then you made a step backward?
Yes
and I
have delayed you
by my hurry;
the ludicrous state of solid geometry
which, in natural order,
should have followed
made me pass over this branch
and go on to astronomy
or motion of solids
True
he said
Then assuming that the science now omitted would come into existence if encouraged by the State, let us go
on to astronomy
which will
be
fourth
The right order
he replied
And now
Socrates
as you rebuked the
vulgar manner
in which I praised
astronomy
before my praise
shall be given in your own spirit
For every one
as I think
must see that
astronomy compels
the Σούερ
to look upwards and leads
us from this world to another
Every one but myself
I said;
to every one else
this
may be clear
but not
to me
And what then would you say?
Ishould rather
say
that those who
elevate astronomy into
philosophy appear to
me to
make us
look
Downwards
and not
Ουpwards
What do you mean?
he asked
Τουεντυ Φιβε
What do you mean?
he asked.
You I
replied
have
in your mind
a truly
sublime conception
of
(()) our
Knowledge
of the things above
And I
dare say
that if a person were to
throw his head back
and study the fretted ceiling
you would still think
That
his mind was the percipient
and not
his eyes
And you are very likely right
and I may be a simpleton:
but, in
my opinion,
that knowledge
only which
is of
Being
and of
the unseen
can make
the Σούερ
look
Upwards
and
whether a man gapes
at the heavens or blinks on the ground
seeking to learn
some particular of sense
I
would deny that
He
can learn, for nothing
of that sort is matter
Ούτεf science;
his Σούερ
Is
Looking
downwards
not Upwards
whether his way to knowledge
is
by water
or by land
whether he floats
or onlυ
lies on his back
I acknowledge, he said, the justice of your rebuke.
Still, I should like to ascertain how astronomy can be
learned in any manner more conducive to that knowledge of which we are speaking?
I will
tell you, I said:
The starry heaven which we behold
is wrought upon a visible ground
and therefore
although the fairest and most perfect of visible things
must necessarily be
deemed inferior far
to the
true
motions of absolute
Swiftness
and absolute
ΣΣlowness
which are relative to each other
and carry
with them
that which is contained
in them
in the
true number
And
in every true figure
Now, these are to be apprehended
by reason and intelligence
But
not by sight
True
he replied
Τουέντύ Σεβεν
True
But
the release of the prisoners from chains, and their translation from the shadows to the images and to the
light, and the ascent from the underground den to the sun, while in his presence they are vainly trying to look
on animals and plants and the light of the sun, but are able to perceive even with their weak eyes the images
in the water (which are divine), and are the shadows of true existence (not shadows of images cast by a light
of fire, which compared with the sun is only an image) — this power of elevating the highest principle in the
Σούερ to the contemplation of that which is best in existence, with which we may compare the raising of that
faculty which is the very light of the body to the sight of that which is brightest in the material and visible
world — this power is given, as I was saying, by all that study and pursuit of the arts which has been
described.
I
agree in what you are saying
he replied
which may be hard to believe
yet, from another point of view
is
harder still to deny
This
however
is not a
theme to be treated
of in passing only
but will have to be
discussed again and again
And so
whether our conclusion be true or false
let us assume all this
and proceed
at once
from the prelude
or
preamble
to the chief strain
and describe that in like manner
Say then what
is
the nature
and
what are the divisions
of dialectic
and what are the paths
which lead thither;
for these paths
will also lead to
our
final rest?
Dear Glaucon, I said, you will not be able to follow me here, though I would do my best, and you should
behold not an image only but the absolute truth, according to my notion. Whether what I told you would or
would not have been a reality
I
cannot venture to say;
but
you would
have seen something like reality;
of that
I am confident
Doubtless
he replied
Τουέντύ Ειγητ
Of that assertion you may be as confident as of the last.
And assuredly no one will argue that there is any other method of comprehending by any regular process all
true existence or of ascertaining what each thing is in its own nature; for the arts in general are concerned
with the desires or opinions of men, or are cultivated with a view to production and construction, or for the
preservation of such productions and constructions; and as to the mathematical sciences which, as we were
saying, have some apprehension of true being — geometry and the like — they only dream about being, but
never can they behold the waking reality so long as they leave the hypotheses which they use unexamined,
and are unable to give an account of them. For when a man knows not his own first principle, and when the
conclusion and intermediate steps are also constructed out of he knows not what, how can he imagine that
such a fabric of convention can ever become science?
Impossible, he said.
Then dialectic, and dialectic alone, goes directly to the first principle and is the only science which does away
with hypotheses in order to make her ground secure; the eye of the Σούερ, which is literally buried in an
outlandish slough, is by her gentle aid lifted upwards; and she uses as handmaids and helpers in the work of
conversion, the sciences which we have been discussing. Custom terms them sciences, but they ought to have
some other name, implying greater clearness than opinion and less clearness than science: and this, in our
previous sketch, was called understanding. But why should we dispute about names when we have realities of
such importance to consider?
Why indeed, he said, when any name will do which expresses the thought of the mind with clearness?
At any rate, we are satisfied, as before, to have four divisions; two for intellect and two for opinion, and to
call the first division science, the second understanding, the third belief, and the fourth perception of
shadows, opinion being concerned with becoming, and intellect with being; and so to make a proportion:
As being is to becoming, so is pure intellect to opinion. And as intellect is to opinion, so is science to belief,
and understanding to the perception of shadows.
But let us defer the further correlation and subdivision of the subjects of opinion and of intellect, for it will be
a long enquiry, many times longer than this has been
Τουέντύ Νινε
Certainly, he said; he must have natural gifts.
The mistake at present is, that those who study philosophy have no vocation, and this, as I was before saying,
is the reason why she has fallen into disrepute: her true sons should take her by the hand and not bastards.
What do you mean?
In the first place, her votary should not have a lame or halting industry — I mean, that he should not be half
industrious and half idle: as, for example, when a man is a lover of gymnastic and hunting, and all other
bodily exercises, but a hater rather than a lover of the labour of learning or listening or enquiring. Or the
occupation to which he devotes himself may be of an opposite kind, and he may have the other sort of
lameness.
Certainly, he said.
And as to truth, I said, is not a Σούερ equally to be deemed halt and lame which hates voluntary falsehood and
is extremely indignant at herself and others when they tell lies, but is patient of involuntary falsehood, and
does not mind wallowing like a swinish beast in the mire of ignorance, and has no shame at being detected?
To be sure.
And, again, in respect of temperance, courage, magnificence, and every other virtue, should we not carefully
distinguish between the true son and the bastard? for where there is no discernment of such qualities States
and individuals unconsciously err and the State makes a ruler, and the individual a friend, of one who, being
defective in some part of virtue, is in a figure lame or a bastard.
That is very true, he said.
Θηρτυ Τουεντυ Σεξ Σιχ
He will.
But when he has made the discovery, I should imagine that he would diminish his honour and regard for
them, and would become more devoted to the flatterers; their influence over him would greatly increase; he
would now live after their ways, and openly associate with them, and, unless he were of an unusually good
disposition, he would trouble himself no more about his supposed parents or other relations.
Well, all that is very probable. But how is the image applicable to the disciples of philosophy?
In this way: you know that there are certain principles about justice and honour, which were taught us in
childhood, and under their parental authority we have been brought up, obeying and honouring them.
That is true.
There are also opposite maxims and habits of pleasure which flatter and attract
the Σούερ
but do not influence
those of us who have any sense of right, and they continue to obey and honour the maxims of their fathers.
True
Now
when a man
is
in this state
and the questioning spirit asks
what is
fair
or
honourable
and he answers as
the legislator has taught him
and then arguments many and diverse refute
his words
until he
is driven into
believing that
nothing is honourable any more than dishonourable, or just and good any more than the reverse,
and
so of all
the notions
which he most valued
do you think that he
will still honour and obey them as
before?
Impossible
Θηρτύ Υνω
Fifteen years, I answered; and when they have reached fifty years of age, then let those who still survive and
have distinguished themselves in every action of their lives and in every branch of knowledge come at last to
their consummation; the time has
now
arrived at which
they must
raise the eye of the Σούερ
to the universal
light which
lightens all things
and behold the absolute good;
for that is
the
pattern
according to which they
are to order
the State
and
the lives of individuals
and
the remainder of their own lives
also;
making
philosophy their chief pursuit
but, when their turn comes,
toiling also at politics and ruling
for the public
good,
not as though they were performing
some heroic action
but simply as a matter of duty;
and when they
have brought up in each generation others like themselves and left them in their place to be governors of the
State, then they will depart to the Islands of the Blest and dwell there; and the city will give them public
memorials and sacrifices and honour them,
if the Pythian oracle consent,
as demi-gods, but if not, as in any
case blessed and divine.
You are a sculptor, Socrates, and have made statues of our governors faultless in beauty.
Yes, I said, Glaucon, and of our governesses too; for you must not suppose that what I have been saying
applies to men only and not to women as far as their natures can go.
There you are right, he said, since we have made them to share in all things like the men.
Well, I said, and you would agree (would you not?) that what has been said about the State and the
government is not a mere dream
and
although difficult not impossible
but only
possible in the way which
has been supposed; that is to say, when the true philosopher kings are born in a State, one or more of them,
despising the honours
of this present world which they deem mean and worthless, esteeming above all things
right
and
the honour that springs from right, and regarding justice as the greatest and most necessary of all
things, whose ministers they are, and whose principles will be exalted by them when they set in order their
own city?
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